The Systemic Justice Project and The [F]law is thrilled that Five Four Pod is returning to Harvard Law School to participate in this year’s Corporate Capture conference, which you can learn more about at

Last year’s visit, which included their wonderful conversation with author David Enrich, was truly a highlight of already outstanding conference.

You can listen to the 5-4 podcast episode (118) here. or you can watch the interview, including an introduction by Jay Willis (Editor in Chief at Balls & Strikes) and conference-closing remarks by Jon Hanson on the following video: